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|Panasonic Lumix GX85||Panasonic Lumix G7||Panasonic Lumix G85|
The Panasonic Lumix GX85 was released in May 2016. The GX85 is a range-finder model and has that vintage body style.
It doesn’t have an anti-aliasing filter and according to Panasonic, it results in 10% sharper images. The in-body image stabilization (IBIS) will also help with sharpened images. I love the look and portability of it. I recently used it on a family vacation. The small size made it a nice complement to my gimbal.
Since I shoot a lot of video, I did find the absence of a microphone input a drawback. For anyone that does videos regularly, you will understand the benefits of it. However, I did purchase a lavalier recently and plan on recording onto my phone.
The display screen doesn’t articulate so you have to ask questions to understand it better. Just joking… seeing if you’re actually paying attention to this article 🙂 It’s not an articulating screen and only folds up and down. It’s not a deal-breaker for me as I use it as a secondary camera. My primary camera has an articulating screen and communicates well with me. :p
Another drawback is the lack of a remote shutter port. Alternatively, it has a touch feature where you can tap the screen to start/stop the image capture. With the IBIS, minor movements should be compensated by the sensor.
I was quite stumped that they included HDMI pass-through on this camera. For what reason? I imagine it came down to marketing. It’s a nice feature to have, but I’m stumped why it’s included in this model and not the G7.
The missing focus-type dial (AFS/AFF, AFC, MF) is also a drawback. This is hugely beneficial in video so you can quickly change the focus-type during recording. With this model, that is not possible. The video has to be stopped in order to change the focus-type. I almost always shoot in manual-mode (thanks to the terrible auto-focusing on Panasonic cameras) so it hasn’t been a huge problem for me. But I can see how that would be time-consuming in photography to change it back/forth. However, I believe there’s a menu setting for using both Auto and Manual focus.
Panasonic Lumix G7 was released in June 2015 and it’s the oldest of these cameras. So it makes sense that some features mentioned in the others would be missing here. Mainly the IBIS and inclusion of an anti-aliasing filter.
This camera includes an articulating screen which is a great feature for vloggers and checking focus. It includes a microphone input, remote shutter port, and an external focus-type dial button. The body style is DSLM (Digital Single Lens Mirrorless) as opposed to the range-finder on the GX85.
The buttons are slightly bigger on the G7 (enough to notice) and the firm grip seats much better in my hand than the GX, range-finder body. The G7 body looks much like the G85 body, only the feel of the G7 is very plastic-y. If you ever hold both a G85 and a G7, you will notice the difference easily.
One drawback to this camera is the HDMI pass-through does not work while recording. For this reason and the lack of IBIS, I would recommend the G85.
Overall, the G7 is an excellent, budget buy for those wanting to get started in photography and videography.
The Panasonic G85 was released in October 2016. Out of these three, it’s the newest model. It has all the features both the GX and G7 are lacking so this section will be short. This camera has IBIS, HDMI pass-through, microphone input, articulating screen, remote shutter port, and a USB-port (for data transfer).
The SD card slot is on the side of the camera and not underneath like both the G7 and GX85. And if anyone is wondering, it uses the same batteries as the G7 so these two cameras would pair well together.
The build-quality of the G85 is superb. It feels great to hold and has a slightly better look than the G7. It’s a fantastic camera and highly recommended out of these three.
GX85 vs. G7 vs. G85
|Release Date||May 2016||June 2015||October 2016|
|Image Stabilization (IBIS)||Yes||No||Yes|
|HDMI Pass-thru||Yes|| No |
(not while recording)
|Remote shutter port||No||Yes||Yes|
|External Focus-type button||No||Yes||Yes|
|External mode dial||No||Yes||Yes|
|Build quality (Good < Better < Best)||Better||Good||Best|
|Battery grip (optional)||No||No||Yes|
|Ideal for||Beginner photographers||Beginner photographers|
|Semi-pro or pro photographers |
Semi-pro or pro videographers
An upgrade from G7 or GX85
If you can afford it
|For photography and light video.|
It’s a great secondary camera.
|For both photography and videography.|
It’s a fantastic secondary camera.
|Between these three options, the G85 wins hands-down!|
Before I get into the nitty gritty, I think it’s important to state the following:
Imagine a camera that generates random values for focal lengths, f-stops and isos. What will those numbers mean to you? The answer:
These numbers don’t mean anything without establishing a reference (to sensor size). This information is needed to understand what the photographer used. Otherwise, the information is not of value.
The following photo was taken on a MFT camera. The settings used are displayed in the photo:
Look familiar? Yes, it’s the same orange in both pictures. This time I have listed MFT values in the photo. So now we’re getting somewhere. Again, if you don’t own an MFT camera and aren’t aware of the crop, what do these numbers mean? Not much!
Here’s another photo taken on an APS-C camera:
Wow! More numbers! We’re not done yet, there’s more!
I’ve listed the values here from the above photos:
Wow, how does anyone understand this stuff? The point here to understand is that various cameras produce nearly the same photo using different settings. In order to do that, you should understand the relationship between the numbers and their camera sensors.
For both film and photography, the 35mm Full-Frame sensor has been used as an industry standard. I’m calling for this to be continued with respect to not only focal lengths, but also aperture and iso values. The tables below list the equivalent values.
Equivalent Focal Lengths for different sensor types
|Full Frame||APS-C||Micro Four-Thirds|
Equivalent F-stops for different sensor types
|Full Frame||APS-C||Micro Four-Thirds|
Equivalent Isos for different sensor types
|Full Frame||APS-C||Micro Four-Thirds|
Please take a few minutes to watch the following videos:
To reiterate from the videos, there is a crop applied to non full-frame cameras to get to full-frame equivalents. Shown below.
Photographers that transition from MFT -> APSc -> Full-Frame, may care more about equivalents than those that are content with one sensor-size.
Or perhaps you’re using a speed booster like the Viltrox EF-M2 or the Metabones. If this is you, you’re likely also aware of the crop factor (not to mention the additional light) and likely think in full-frame equivalents.
Having a standard scale for these attributes is like having one photography language across different sensor types. I personally think that not only should one list the camera’s values, but also the ff-equivalents.
The camera values and ff-equivalents would eliminate the need for calculations to understand equivalent lens and camera settings. That is, if you’re even aware of the crops to begin with.
I decided to take a poll to find out what other MFT users were doing.
50% of the MFT users convert their numbers to FF-equivalents. Remember, this was in a MFT user-group. I have a hunch that I would get different results in APSc user groups… If 50% of the group is doing it, these users may consider the full-frame as a standard. So there you have it. Evidence that full-frame equivalents matter (to some).
What do you think? Agree? Disagree? This article makes no sense? Let me know in the comments! Thanks!
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Below are some more shots I took with the Oshiro 60mm. I think they came out pretty good and I didn’t bother with any editing.
And now, some shots that were edited!
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I was able to get my hands on this lens and let me tell you – it’s fantastic! This lens is great for low-light shots and combined with the speedbooster, you get an extra stop of light. With f/1.8, it lives up to its expectations! The additional stop makes it a f/1.2 (or f/2.4 in full frame, 35mm terms). In the pictures below, I’m using it with a Viltrox Speedbooster on a Panasonic Lumix G7. What do you think?